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13-09-2007, 01:48 PM
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| Άρης  Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Terra something or other
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You're Top Poster: #1   | Brewster Buffalo As this is one of my favourite aircraft of WW2 I have to post this link to the best website around: http://www.warbirdforum.com/buff.htm
__________________ _________________  Beaufighter TF Mark Xs (NV427 'EO-L' nearest) of No. 404 Squadron RCAF based at Dallachy, Morayshire, breaking formation during a flight along the Scottish coast. February 1945. |
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06-10-2007, 05:24 AM
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You're Top Poster: #1 | Buffalo lifted from a lake in Russian Karelia Had completely forgotten about this - Brewster model 239 fighter BW-372 of Finnish Air Force lifted from a lake in Russian Karelia: http://users.tkk.fi/%7Essipila/bw-372/ Must follow it up to see what progress they have made, if any, on restoring/preserving it.
__________________ _________________ Beaufighter TF Mark Xs (NV427 'EO-L' nearest) of No. 404 Squadron RCAF based at Dallachy, Morayshire, breaking formation during a flight along the Scottish coast. February 1945. |
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06-10-2007, 07:27 AM
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You're Top Poster: #2  | Here ya go Kyt. From Air Classics May 2004: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...05/ai_n9415629 Remember the virtually intact Finnish Air Force Brewster Buffalo recovered from a lake a few years back? After numerous attempts at selling the machine, which has been hidden away at several locations, a trade deal has been worked out with the Naval Aviation Museum in Pcnsacola, Florida. In exchange for the fighter, three Lockheed P-3 Orions are being given to the owner. The aircraft have been pulled from storage at Davis-Monthan AFB and placed in a special area pending completion of the deal. Probably means she'll go into USN markings not Finnish AF. 
__________________ http://www.454-459squadrons.org.au/. http://www.awm.gov.au/index.asp  Aircraft from No. 60 Squadron levelling out for the "run in" to make a mast-head attack on a Japanese coaster off Akyab. Courtesy AWM. |
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06-10-2007, 07:30 AM
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You're Top Poster: #2 | An excellent story of the man behind her recovery. Given her apparent history, the push should be to put her in Finnish colours: http://warbirdforum.com/gosport.htm The Last Brewster: http://warbirdforum.com/jarmoart.htm
__________________ http://www.454-459squadrons.org.au/. http://www.awm.gov.au/index.asp Aircraft from No. 60 Squadron levelling out for the "run in" to make a mast-head attack on a Japanese coaster off Akyab. Courtesy AWM. |
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06-10-2007, 07:35 AM
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You're Top Poster: #2 | http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/E...Treasures.aspx In 2004, a lake in Russia revealed the wreckage of a Finnish Air Force BW-372, export version of the U.S. Navy’s first monoplane fighter, the Brewster F2A Buffalo. Though American combat experience with the type left much to be desired, Finnish pilots racked up quite a record in the type while flying against the Soviet Union. Among the top-ranking aces was Lieutenant Lauri Pekuri, with 18.5 kills. On 25 June 1942, Pekuri engaged in a running dogfight with enemy fighters, suffering damage to his aircraft that made it necessary for him to ditch his aircraft in a lake. Sixty-two years later, that aircraft arrived at the museum, the tail still pained with the silhouettes signifying some of Pekuri’s kills and the fuselage and pilot’s seat showing the signs of damage from its last pitched World War II air battle.
__________________ http://www.454-459squadrons.org.au/. http://www.awm.gov.au/index.asp Aircraft from No. 60 Squadron levelling out for the "run in" to make a mast-head attack on a Japanese coaster off Akyab. Courtesy AWM. |
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06-10-2007, 08:38 AM
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You're Top Poster: #3 | Didn't they have a bit of a political struggle getting the Aircraft out?
__________________ Spidge, ------------------------------------------------------- My Avatar is the memorial to the 22 Commonwealth Coastwatchers at the Temakin Cemetery on Betio (Tarawa Atoll) who were beheaded by the Japanese on 15th October 1942. http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat...mem_beito.html "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war." (Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.) What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site: http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm |
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06-10-2007, 08:42 AM
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You're Top Poster: #2 | I think so, Geoff. I haven't read all of the above links in entirety yet (for tomorrow when my wife's working from home!) but the "Last Brewster" article mentioned arrests and a "must get back to Finland"!
__________________ http://www.454-459squadrons.org.au/. http://www.awm.gov.au/index.asp Aircraft from No. 60 Squadron levelling out for the "run in" to make a mast-head attack on a Japanese coaster off Akyab. Courtesy AWM. |
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06-10-2007, 08:48 AM
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You're Top Poster: #3 | I seem to remember that somebody reneged on the deal and it threatened to fall apart!
__________________ Spidge, ------------------------------------------------------- My Avatar is the memorial to the 22 Commonwealth Coastwatchers at the Temakin Cemetery on Betio (Tarawa Atoll) who were beheaded by the Japanese on 15th October 1942. http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat...mem_beito.html "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war." (Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.) What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site: http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm |
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06-10-2007, 10:50 AM
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You're Top Poster: #2 | The Finnish version of the Buffalo: http://www.warbirdforum.com/humu.htm Page one of a lot of photos! http://www.trerc.fi/galleria/tikka1/
__________________ http://www.454-459squadrons.org.au/. http://www.awm.gov.au/index.asp Aircraft from No. 60 Squadron levelling out for the "run in" to make a mast-head attack on a Japanese coaster off Akyab. Courtesy AWM. |
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06-10-2007, 03:09 PM
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You're Top Poster: #5  | Here is a copy of the pilots notes for the Buffalo!
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