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Old 30-05-2008, 11:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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This was covered a few days ago on rafcommands:

Tiger Moth T5422 Unit was 10 EFTS; flew into sea while low flying 1 mile S of Brean Down (Bristol Channel); crew drowned.

Baldry was Instructor and pupil was LAC (Pilot u/t) Roderick G.L. MacKENZIE - 1104259

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Baldry was buried at Burnham cemetery in Somerset.

Interesting that I am 12,000 miles away asking the same/similar question.
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OLDMAN, LEONARD HENRY Sergeant

Whiley Z6750 19 OTU

T/O Kinloss for night bombing practice over the Tain range. Failed to return at its scheduled time. No other details

Sgt E H Brace
Sgt P Kelly RCAF (An American from Cleveland)
Sgt L H Oldman
Sgt G W Gray

Whitely T4144 was also also lost on this exercise when it was struck by a bomb!
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RIES, WILLIAM EDWARD Pilot Officer

He is reported as Killed on Active Service, which may mean that he was caught up in an air-raid on Singapore. He is listed as Adminstrative & Special Duties Branch in the LG, so not aircrew.

Interestingly he was commissioned with a whole bunch of Australians on the same date:

The undermentioned Australians to be Plt.Offs. on prob. (emergency): —
7th Nov. 1940.
Colin Andrew MacDonald ANDERSON (60158).
Edward Salmon BEACHCROFT (60159).
Charles Robinson COLEMAN (60160).
Stanley Royston Cox (60161).
Broughton Gordon EDGELL (60162).
Clyde William Kay ELLEM (60163).
Richard Ross FENNER (60165).
Francis Cuthbert FRANCIS (60166).
Alexander James Muir FABIAN (60164).
Archdall Owen GAZE (60167).
William Stanley Alfred GILES (60168).
George Anderton GRANT (60169).
.Harold Edgar HAYTER (60590).
James August HILLIER (60170).
Algernon Victor JENTSCH (60171).
Arthur Ernest KURING (60591).
Michael Alexander Addison KIRKPATRICK (60173).
Ralf Haliburton Crossley LAIDLAW (60174).
Cecil Vaughan NYREN (60176).
Leonard Edmund Arthur ROBINSON (60177).
John Henry TONKIN (60179).
Ernest Edward TYLER (60180).
Thomas WELHAM (60181).
Vivian Hastings YOUNG (60182).
Thomas Joseph Kevin STARR (60178). I7th Nov. 1940.
William Roy HEATON (61336). 1st Feb. 1941.
Eric Walwyn Ormsby MARTIN (63873). 3rd Mar. 1941.
Hugh GARRETT (66051). 28th Mar. 1941.

16th Apr. 1941.
Geoffrey CARROLL (101105).
Stanley Bickford HARRY (101106).
Cyril Christian KISSNER (101107).
James Joseph MCNAMARA (101108).
Arthur Ernest PEARL (101109).
Harold Sidney PREECE (lomo).
Leslie Thomas Henry SIMON (101111).
George Francis STEEPER (101112).

24th Apr. 1941.
Herbert Frederick BARCLAY (109310).
Guy Norman BORTON (109311).
Gilbert Tootal BROADHURST (109312).
Hugh Mason BEATTY (101113).
Clifford Harding BROWNE (117125).
Stanley Webb CRESSEY (120083).
Hector Claude FERGUSON (118150).
John Joseph GRAY (101114).
Herbert Bassett GROVES (109336).
John GRAINGER (109334).
Ernest Henry GUNDRY (120081).
Herbert Phillip HORNE (110117).
Hilton Harcourt HARRIS (101115).
Lawrence George ROBINSON (109328).
William Edward RIES (109327).
John McMaster SHEPPARD (101116).
David William TWEDDLE (101117).
Kenneth Eyre Inverell WALLACE-CRABBE (109306).

25th Apr. 1941.
George Rupert Francis BURLINSON (109314).
Mark Ernest DAVIS (117124).
Arthur Noel FINLAY (109332).
Hector Francis Hamilton KABLE (109320).
Barnett Norman WEEKES (109330).

11th May 1941.
Gilbert Edward ALLEN (117040).
George Doughty ARNOLD (117041).
Lindsay Lyle Spier BARR (117044).
Geoffrey Charles BARNARD (117043).
Harry William CLOSTER (117046).
Alexander George COOMBES (117048).
Ian Francis DARROCH (117051).
Douglas Stowte DATE (117052).
Lyndhurst Sydney DAVIS (117054).
Norman Henry DICK (117055).
Alfred John ELSON-SMITH (117059).
Valentine Gilbert EMPEY (117060).
Arthur Vicary EVANS (117062).
Alexander Longmuir GREGG (117071).
John Patrick GLOSTER (117068).
Ernest Robertson GLOVER (117069).
Edward Harry GOODGER (117070).
Francis Peter HENNESSY (117077).
Kenneth McBride HORWOOD (117078).
Stephen HALLAM (117079).
Edgar Ross HENNING (117080).
Keith Wilfred HAMILTON (117076).
Charles Stewart JOHNSTONS (117087).
John Archer Proctor KAINES (117092).
Colin Henry KEON-COHEN (117093).
Ernest Gilbert KROME (117094).
Harold Charles Roy MARTEN (117099).
Aubrey Richard MACLEAN (108805).
Charles Stewart MURRAY (117102).
Glenorchy McBRiDE (117101).
Claud William NEWMAN (117103).
Robert Granville RUNNALLS (117107).
John Wolseley STRONG (117116).
Hector Hope TRESTRAIL (117117).
Herbert Harman WILSON (117123).
Arthur Herbert WARD (117118).

I7th May 1941.
Albert Newburn Mervyn BAY (117045).
Walter Leonard CROSSING (117050).
Walter GRANDISON (117072).
Cyril Archibald GANNAWAY (117073).
Norman John Wasley HARVEY (117081).
John Hamilton ROBERTSON (117108).
Wilton Herbert SIDES (117112).
Vernon Hopetown SMITH (117114).

21st May 1941.
Arthur Isaac ATTENBORROW (117042).
Gavin William O'Brien COBCROFT (117047).
Peter Walter CORNWALL (117049).
Harold Victor DAVIES (117053)-
Charles Ray DUNLOP (117056).
Kenneth Percival Du RIEU (117057).
Kenneth Lyle EDWARDS (117058).
Rowland James EVAN (117061) .
John FAURE (117064).
Victor George FALL (117063).
Walter Alan FRASER (117067).
William Stewart FERGUSON (117065).
George Ronald GAYFER (117074).
Noel Sealy GRIFFIN (117075).
Warwick Leigh HARBUTT (117082).
Geoffrey Buckhurst Stephen HART (117083).
David William HAWTHORNE (117084).
Cyril Alexander IRONSIDE (117085).
David Samuel ISAACS (117086).
Allan Henry JENKINS (117088).
Mogens Hervard JESSEN (117089).
John Ralph JUKES (117090).
William Oswald JENNINGS (117091).
Walter Lister KERR (117095).
Norman Charles LENEHAM (117096).
Clive Vernon LEY (117097).
Ian LINDEN-ROMER (117098).
Angus Graeme MACPHERSON (117100).
Harold Russell NOLAN (117104).
Francis O'SULLIVAN (117105) .
Roy McRae PATTIE (117106).
Hugh Gordon RANDELL (117109).
Walter Syblea ROWLAND (117110)
Kenneth Bexfield READY (117111).
Walter George SIMPSON (117113).
William SOPWITH (117115).
Alan McLeod WARD (117119).
Edwin Richards WHEEN (117120).
Cecil Morrison WHITE (117121).
Gordon Stanley Cunningham WILLIAMS (117122).
Percy Henry FORDHAM (117066). 23rd May 1941.
Douglas Nelson LINNETT (118089). 5th June 1941.

The undermentioned Australians to be Actg. Plt. Offs. on prob. (emergency): —
15th May 1941.
Hallett Robertson BARTLETT (102307).
Frederick Thomas CLEARY (103090).
Ralph Arnold FREMLIN (103091).
Edgar Charles GAIN (102308).
Richard Thornton HOOD (110027).
Harold Vienna HIGBY (102311).
Francis HAINS (102309).
James Alexander HENDERSON (102310).
George Francis JOHNSTON (117588).
Donald Macrae Stewart MATHESON (102312).
Charles Donovan RATH (103092).
Francis Donald SHORT (102313).
Sadler Joseph SMITH (102314).
Frederick Harry SOUTHEY (102315).
Thomas Joseph THORP (102316).
Edwin George WOOD (117605).
Norman Markus WILSON (103093).

5th June 1941.
George Statham AINSWORTH (117579).
Lionel De Vere BURFORD (117578).
Kenneth Maurice CANVIN (117576).
Herbert Roberts CAMERON-WALLER (117577).
James Basil DOWELL (117575).
Harry Bruce Carvil EVANS (117574).
Alfred Howard GREENHAM (117573).
Clifford Bernard HANSEN (117586).
John Gidley HOWDEN (117587).
Dysart William Essington KING (117589).
Norman MACDOUGALL (117595).
James Patrick MARDLING (117591).
Tom MOTTRAM (117592).
Albert Walton MIDDLEDITCH (117593).
William Francis MCEGAN (117596).
Aubrey MAURER (117590).
Louis George MCDERMOTT (117594).
John Mawdesley NASH (117597).
William Wadham PRENTICE (117600).
Reginald Clair PYBUS (117599).
Alan Lyle ROE "(117602).
Herbert Leonard .STOREY (117603).
George Dinsdale THOMPSON (117604).
Robert Phillip Elder WEBSTER (119359).
Aubrey Stanfield NORRIS (117598). 11th June 1941
John Lindsay PHILLIPS (117601) 12th June 1941.
Frank Lindsey WORTH -(120082). 30th June 1941.

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TONGUE, EDWIN (MM) Flying Officer

He was in the Admin & SD Branch which means that he was in one of the ground units. The date of his death is ominous because that is the date of the massacre of the wounded by the Japanese in Singapore. Other than that it is not possible to establish exact unit at the time.

Rather spooky that another Edwin Tongue diedon this date, not too far away:

Name: TONGUE, EDWIN
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Date of Death: 14/02/1942
Additional information: at Pom Pong Island.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: SUMATRA
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Hampden AT181 455 Squadron on an Intruder mission

T/O 18.45 from Wigsley for a nuisance raid in SW Germany. Lost without trace. All are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

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He was in the Admin & SD Branch which means that he was in one of the ground units. The date of his death is ominous because that is the date of the massacre of the wounded by the Japanese in Singapore. Other than that it is not possible to establish exact unit at the time.

Rather spooky that another Edwin Tongue died on this date, not too far away:

Name: TONGUE, EDWIN
Initials: E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Date of Death: 14/02/1942
Additional information: at Pom Pong Island.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: SUMATRA
That is truly spooky as you say.

Can he be traced through his (MM)?

[b]Flying Officer EDWIN TONGUE
M M

116822, Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
who died age 43
on 14 February 1942
Son of Samuel and Sarah Ellen Tongue; husband of Elsie Tongue, of Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
Remembered with honour
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He didn't receive his MM in WW2m and there are two possible candidates for WW1:

Medal card of Tongue, Edwin
Corps: Scottish Rifles
Regiment No: 40349
Rank: Corporal

Medal card of Tongue, Edwin
Corps: Young Mens Christian Association

And it seems more likely that he wasn't Australian but married to an Ayustralian
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He didn't receive his MM in WW2m and there are two possible candidates for WW1:

Medal card of Tongue, Edwin
Corps: Scottish Rifles
Regiment No: 40349
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Medal card of Tongue, Edwin
Corps: Young Mens Christian Association

And it seems more likely that he wasn't Australian but married to an Ayustralian
Interesting!
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"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

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