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Old 15-03-2008, 03:44 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Very interesting Richard.

I have been looking to do this however don't seem to find the time.

I will have to get up Bardia & Tobruk. (My Fathers area)
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My Avatar is the memorial to the 22 Commonwealth Coastwatchers at the Temakin Cemetery on Betio (Tarawa Atoll) who were beheaded by the Japanese on 15th October 1942. http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat...mem_beito.html

"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.
You chose dishonor and you will have war."

(Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.)

What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site:
http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm
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Old 15-03-2008, 06:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Time ... there is time here in Canada, it is the depth of winter. Some sun today and warmer weather ... but this is last Sunday:


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Old 15-03-2008, 11:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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G'day, Richard, welcome to the forum!

That Google Earth thing is bloody clever. Had no idea it could do that. Amazing.
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Aircraft from No. 60 Squadron levelling out for the "run in" to make a mast-head attack on a Japanese coaster off Akyab. Courtesy AWM.
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Old 15-03-2008, 11:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hello Richard,

Welcome to the forum from a new member of a few days.

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Old 20-03-2008, 03:00 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I just noticed everyone's flag flutters ... but not mine!

Here it is for the Mods to use of abuse as they see fit:

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Old 20-03-2008, 07:07 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:19 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Well here it is a few months later and I have finally received the Service Records of my parents from Library and Archives Canada. For those that have an interest in obtaining these files, I have added mine to the Family Tree Website so you can see what you will receive. There is a 20 year restriction, so I have been limited to what they will send me - odd as they are gone and who else would care?

http://www.censol.ca/research/family...iceRecords.pdf

I can tell the records have been censored as they do not contain all that I already know. When I initially applied for my NATO SECRET security clearance they had to check all the family, friends and business acquaintances - and that is when I found out that my father had "decked" his CO or making a pass at my mother, so he did some brig time. True or not, that is what I got back from the "official government report", yet it is not in these documents.

What I did find of interest that I DID NOT KNOW was the reference to what I thought was "Navy Ships". For example, if you look at Maureen's records it refers to her time or "Establishment" with:

HMCS Bytown
HMCS Stadacona
HMCS Cornwallis
HMCS York

And so I was quite surprised to see that she served on the Bytown for 37 days and the York for 598 days - WRONG - they were not ships, they were "establishments".

Then I go back and look at my father's ships and there are some that are not even ships. Six (6) are denoted as "Atlantic" so I can assume he was on convoy duty but some of the others are quite different. For example:

M.L. 098 - 178 days
M.L. 077 39 days

No idea what those are - research will begin! As a young lad I heard nothing more than the stories about the "Cobalt", perhaps because that was the "first love", yet he did 262 days (3 times) the service on the Arnprior.

There is some family history in here, too bad we were never told. Yet, they told us why our grandfathers did not speak of the "Great War"?

I would love to ask a psychologist why a father would tell you why your grandfather would not tell you of his stories in WWI while at the same time he did not tell you of his stories in WWII? If I had not ordered this service record I would have never known - and then in 10 years I can find out what I have yet to learn!!

Very strange,

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Old 08-05-2008, 01:43 AM   #18 (permalink)
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M.L. 098 & M.L. 077 were Fairmile "B" patrol craft (Motor Launch). ML 098 had pendant Q098, and ML 077 had Q077.

Fairmile B motor launch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Radio Research Paper - Fairmile History
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:37 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Thanks for that! Never heard that part of the story before but it certainly fits in with his interest in the wooden minesweepers in Sarnia when I was a young lad. He had me all signed up as a Cadet on one for the summer - then our house burnt down and that was the end of that project.
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What I did find of interest that I DID NOT KNOW was the reference to what I thought was "Navy Ships". For example, if you look at Maureen's records it refers to her time or "Establishment" with:

HMCS Bytown
HMCS Stadacona
HMCS Cornwallis
HMCS York

And so I was quite surprised to see that she served on the Bytown for 37 days and the York for 598 days - WRONG - they were not ships, they were "establishments".
Richard,
Quite a common mistake - HMCS, HMS perceived as actual seagoing ships. As you have found out many were shore establishments known as "stone frigates".

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