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02-04-2008, 08:14 PM
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You're Top Poster: #18  | Prince Obolensky A Russian Prince is to have a statue of him erected in Ipswich, I knew of him as a Rugby player, but did not know he had died in a crashing Hurricane. Full story here, http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/content...A03%3A00%3A163
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02-04-2008, 10:26 PM
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You're Top Poster: #30  | Think his Hurri overturned on landing - or was this the a/c which hit a house at Playford ? I know it was early 1940. When I visited to photograph the war graves at Ipswich a couple of years ago there were flowers on his grave. His grave is among a group of early RAF fatalities buried under a small copse of trees. From 1942 onwards the service casualties were all buried in a central burial plot in the southern part of the Cemetery. BC |
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02-04-2008, 10:35 PM
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You're Top Poster: #3  | In Memory of Pilot Officer H.H. Prince ALEXANDER OBOLENSKY 91075, 54 Sqdn., Royal Air Force (Auxiliary Air Force) who died age 24 on 29 March 1940 Son of H.H. Prince Serge Obolensky and of H.H. Princess Luba Obolensky (nee Narishchkine), of Muswell Hill, Middlesex. A Rugby player, H.H. Prince Alexander played four times for England scoring two tries in the 1936 match against the "All Blacks". He also played Rugby for Oxford, where he gained a "Blue". The Prince was killed in a Hurricane Mark 1 at Martlesham Heath. He was born in St. Petersburg on 17th February 1916. Remembered with honour IPSWICH CEMETERY 
__________________ Spidge, ------------------------------------------------------- My Avatar is the memorial to the 22 Commonwealth Coastwatchers at the Temakin Cemetery on Betio (Tarawa Atoll) who were beheaded by the Japanese on 15th October 1942. http://www.dva.gov.au/media/publicat...mem_beito.html "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war." (Winston Churchill made this prophetic pronouncement in a House of Commons speech in 1938, just after Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed the Munich agreement with Hitler. Chamberlain returned from Germany with the signed agreement in hand, proclaiming that "peace in our time" had been achieved. Churchill attacked Chamberlain's "politics of appeasement" in this and many other speeches.) What did the Australians do in ww2 and other conflicts? Check out this site: http://www.diggerhistory.info/00-pag...ster-index.htm |
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02-04-2008, 10:39 PM
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You're Top Poster: #1 | His CWGC entry, as posted by Spidge above, ahs to be one of the most detailed I've ever seen. I've never seen actual cause of death posted in the notes section before. The actual serial that is most often cited seems to conflict with the details in the reference books, so I shall have to have a dig to see whether the Hurricane was repaired. L1946, in which died, is listed as having been lost 01/10/1940 with 55 OTU.
__________________ _________________  Beaufighter TF Mark Xs (NV427 'EO-L' nearest) of No. 404 Squadron RCAF based at Dallachy, Morayshire, breaking formation during a flight along the Scottish coast. February 1945. |
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02-04-2008, 10:42 PM
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You're Top Poster: #1 | Someone who played against Obolensky, who also then joined up and ended up in the RAF: Vesey Boyle | Times Online Obituary Squadron Leader Vesey Boyle - Telegraph
__________________ _________________ Beaufighter TF Mark Xs (NV427 'EO-L' nearest) of No. 404 Squadron RCAF based at Dallachy, Morayshire, breaking formation during a flight along the Scottish coast. February 1945. |
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05-04-2008, 09:56 PM
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You're Top Poster: #30 | Quote:
I think you'll find the picture you used actually shows the WW 1 Cemetery at Ipswich; the main WW 2 military plot for service casualties from 1942 onwards is closeby. The spot where Obolensky is buried is in the North part of the Cemetery, beneath a small copse of trees and with some pre-WW 2 RAF graves closeby. BC | |
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10-06-2008, 06:55 PM
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You're Top Poster: #152 | Price Obolensky Hi All I am doing research on Prince Obolensky as i shall make a model of the Hurricane mk1 that he crashed in. I have found out that he was with 504 sqn RAFA out of Denby at the time on week about detachments to Martlesham heath, a/c ser was P1946 code TM-? This was a Hurricane Mk1 with rotol twin blade wooden prop and fabric wings, one of the first batch made. all this tally’s with records and 504 sqn had P1931 and P1950 on strength at the time. The Model is for a fellow work mate; he has loads of things on this chap as he collects Rugby things. I shall let him know about you playing with the Prince. If any one can help with the A/C code that would help, as it will say a trip to Kew in a few weeks. Aim all so looking in to 582 sqn and 109 sqn out of Little Staunton as the chaps mum was there in the war, at the time she was engaged to W/C Gibbsons Nav on the Dams Raid. Thanks Lysander |
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10-06-2008, 07:10 PM
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You're Top Poster: #1 | I can't find a code but it maybe worth asking over on RafCommands Forums - Powered by vBulletin A great bunch of guys who maybe able to help
__________________ _________________ Beaufighter TF Mark Xs (NV427 'EO-L' nearest) of No. 404 Squadron RCAF based at Dallachy, Morayshire, breaking formation during a flight along the Scottish coast. February 1945. |
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10-06-2008, 10:38 PM
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You're Top Poster: #2 | Welcome Lysander, hope you enjoy it here. Nicky Barr would have had a lot to talk to the prince about had they ever met.
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