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Old 25-05-2008, 05:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dambusters remake

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Peter Jackson's doing a remake of the 1954 film "The Dambusters". What do you think of it? Will he stick to being completely accurate or not?
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Old 25-05-2008, 06:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It will possibly be more accurate than the original!
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Old 25-05-2008, 09:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It will possibly be more accurate than the original!
Given that the original had to be made within the confines of the Official Secrets Act, then they did the best that they could do at the time.

The big problemwith a new version, is what, if any changes the new production team will do. Okay, it will be CGI for the aircraft, and the raid itself. But, its the other things that are worrying, Stepehn Fry, is supposed to be writing the script, will he introduce sutble or unsutble refences to being gay? Could we see someones reputation tarnished by being played as a closet gay?

Then there is the decsion, what to include and what to leave out. I suspect that inorder for the film to cover most of the ground, it would have to be somewhere in the region of three to four hours!
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Old 25-05-2008, 10:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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There is an interesting thread regarding the remake here. A lot of waffle (IMHO) regarding the name of Wg Cdr Gibson's dog!

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Old 25-05-2008, 10:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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There is an interesting thread regarding the remake here. A lot of waffle (IMHO) regarding the name of Wg Cdr Gibson's dog!

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Care to enlarge on the waffle. I can't get in unless I register.

We had a discussion about it previously on another forum. I feel the "Nigger" should remain and apparently the producer said it will be included.

Apparently channel 4 in the UK beep it out whenever it is shown!

What is your view?
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Given that the original had to be made within the confines of the Official Secrets Act, then they did the best that they could do at the time.
This is what I meant by more accurate!

12 O'Clock High is just starting here 20:30 Sunday. Haven't seen it for years.


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The big problem with a new version, is what, if any changes the new production team will do. Okay, it will be CGI for the aircraft, and the raid itself. But, its the other things that are worrying, Stephen Fry, is supposed to be writing the script, will he introduce subtle or unsubtle references to being gay? Could we see someone's reputation tarnished by being played as a closet gay?
I would be disappointed if this was the case. This would not (IMHO) add to the quality of the film. I really feel they will be careful however I hope I am not proven wrong!

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Then there is the decision, what to include and what to leave out. I suspect that in order for the film to cover most of the ground, it would have to be somewhere in the region of three to four hours!
The longer the better if it is interesting.
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I'll have a trawl through the PPRuNe thread to try to find something of use. Most of it centred around Wg Cdr Tom Cruise of the 617th Sqn USAAF fighting the nasty English Germans...Germany was being run by the very nasty Adolf Rickman...you get the gist. Then they got to the name of the dog...

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This is what I meant by more accurate!

12 O'Clock High is just starting here 20:30 Sunday. Haven't seen it for years.




I would be disappointed if this was the case. This would not (IMHO) add to the quality of the film. I really feel they will be careful however I hope I am not proven wrong!



The longer the better if it is interesting.
I think that the film producers will have to come to a comprimise, as they want they film to be a commericial success, which involves it being entertaining and being a "history" of the raid.

For example, Bomber Harris, in his guise as a Squadron Commander, did trials with the "sixpenny sight" and using searchlighs to judge height back in the 1920s. Would the producers allow that to be mentiond? I think not.
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I'll have a trawl through the PPRuNe thread to try to find something of use. Most of it centred around Wg Cdr Tom Cruise of the 617th Sqn USAAF fighting the nasty English Germans...Germany was being run by the very nasty Adolf Rickman...you get the gist. Then they got to the name of the dog...
Roxy, they'll probably use B-17's or something... lol
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