Probert, john william (1893-1945)

spidge · 12-09-2008, 08:11 AM

This man was a real trier!

PROBERT, JOHN WILLIAM (1893-1945), soldier and farmer, was born on 15 November 1893 at Elsternwick, Melbourne, only child of Victorian-born parents Charles Moule Verdon Probert, gentleman, and his wife Maud Mary, née Woodward. John's parents divorced in 1901; Charles remarried in 1905. Educated briefly at Cumloden school, East St Kilda, and Melbourne Church of England Grammar School, John left home in 1910 and soon fell foul of the law. Fined £2 in May for 'borrowing' a camera at Castlemaine, he caught a train to Sydney, was arrested for breaching the Influx of Criminals Prevention Act (1903) and sentenced in July to six months imprisonment. His sentence was remitted four weeks later and he immediately joined the crew of the windjammer Marian Woodside, bound for Chile, to redeem himself. Shortly after returning in March 1911, however, he was fined for evading a cab fare and in May, convicted of obtaining clothes by false pretences, was sentenced to twelve months hard labour in Goulburn gaol.
Released in July 1912, Probert sailed for England and in September enlisted in the Rifle Brigade, British Army. Serving in the brigade's 1st Battalion when World War I broke out, he arrived in France on 23 August 1914. He was wounded during the battle of Le Cateau on the 26th and captured by the Germans. Held in a prisoner-of-war camp at Döberitz, near Berlin, he escaped in September 1917 after receiving news that his father was seriously ill. He made his way to Stettin (Szczecin), hid in a Swedish ship's coal bunker and emerged more than a week later at Malmö, Sweden. There he learned that his father had died. For his gallantry Probert was awarded the Military Medal.
Back in England, he transferred to the Royal Flying Corps in October 1917. Probert qualified as a pilot and was commissioned in the Royal Air Force on 1 November 1918. On Armistice Day he crashed his S.E.5a while performing celebratory aerobatics. Next month he sustained serious facial injuries in another aircraft accident. After recovering, he was repatriated to Australia and placed on the Unemployed List on 14 June 1919.
In 1924 Probert leased, under the soldier-settlement scheme, 1555 acres (629 ha) near Rankins Springs, New South Wales. At St Nicholas's Church of England, Coogee, Sydney, on 8 June 1925 he married Minnie Cook. He worked hard to establish his wheat-farm, but conditions were harsh; his wife left him in 1927, taking their son. Divorced in April 1933, he married 26-year-old Nora Gwendoline Peach on 14 June that year at St Alban's Church of England, Griffith. Although prospects improved after he turned his attention to sheep, the cumulative effects of the Depression and drought forced the Proberts off the land in 1938. Early in 1939 he opened a small farmers' produce store at Griffith.
Appointed pilot officer, Royal Australian Air Force Reserve, on 1 February 1939, Probert was called up for full-time duty on 2 September, but six days later was discharged medically unfit. On 30 April 1940, understating his age, he enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force. Promoted to acting warrant officer, class two, in June, he was posted to the intelligence section, I Corps headquarters. He arrived in the Middle East in September, but was sent home in November and discharged in January 1941 'not on account of misconduct'. His correct age had perhaps been discovered.
Adopting the surname Moule-Probert, which he had used for a time while serving in the R.A.F., he re-enlisted in the A.I.F. in April 1941. He reached Singapore in August and became a driver in the 2/15th Field Regiment. The unit moved to Malaya in September, went into action against the advancing Japanese forces in mid-January 1942 and withdrew to Singapore at the end of the month. On 15 February the island fell and Moule-Probert once again became a prisoner of war. As part of 'B' Force, he was shipped to Sandakan, British North Borneo. There, more than 2400 Australian and British prisoners were overworked, starved, beaten and denied medical supplies. Only six survived. Moule-Probert died on 10 May 1945. The cause of death was recorded as malaria. Survived by his wife and their two sons, and by the son of his first marriage, he is commemorated on the Labuan Memorial, Sabah, Malaysia, for servicemen with no known graves.
Select Bibliography

J. B. Kiddle (compiler), War Services of Old Melburnians 1914-1918 (Melb, 1923); L. R. Silver, Sandakan (Burra Creek, NSW, 1988); S. and J. Probert, Prisoner of Two Wars (Adel, 2001); AWM 43, item A707, and AWM 140 (Australian War Memorial); A9300, item PROBERT J W M, and B883, item NX10894 (National Archives of Australia); WO 339/128673 and AIR 76/413 (National Archives of the United Kingdom).
Author: Jolyon Horner
Print Publication Details: Jolyon Horner, 'Probert, John William (1893 - 1945)', Australian Dictionary of Biography, Supplementary Volume, Melbourne University Press, 2005, pp 327-328.

liverpool annie · 13-09-2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by spidge

This man was a real trier!

I would say this man was a "miracle man" !! how can one person go through so much ?? Amazing !!

Borneo (Sandakan, Kuching)

The Japanese conquered British and Dutch Borneo early in 1942. B and E Forces were sent by ship from Changi to Borneo . B Force (1,496-strong) included 145 officers and medical staff. Commanded by Lieutenant Colonel A. W. Walsh of the 2/10th Field Regiment, it left Singapore in the Ubi Maru on 8 July 1942 and after a nine-day journey in poor conditions disembarked at Sandakan . E Force embarked on the steamer de Klerk on 29 March 1943 . It contained 500 British prisoners, who disembarked at Kuching, and 500 Australian prisoners, who were sent to Berhala Island (North Borneo). In early June 1943, E Force was moved to Sandakan .

Prisoners in B and E Forces included troops from the 2/18th, 2/19th, 2/20th, 2/26th, 2/29th, 2/30th Battalions, 2/4th Machine Gun Battalion, and the 2/10th Field Ambulance. There were four main camps in Borneo : Sandakan , Kuching, Labuan and Jesselton. Of these, Sandakan contained the majority of Australians. Captain Hoshijima Susumi commanded Sandakan Camp. In January 1945 the first forced march to Ranau occurred, and the second in May 1945. Of the 2,500 Australian and British prisoners of war, only six Australians survived these “death marches”.

Malaysia - Sandakan Memorial Park, Sandakan - Sabah

liverpool annie · 13-09-2008, 05:08 AM

I've had an interest in this man for some time ... I was trying to include him with my family !! one of my family names is Muels ( and various spellings ) I have ties to the Rifle Brigade ... and more than one or two of my family have jumped ship and started life over ... so I was pleased to see your thread Spidge ! ... he's not my family I'm afraid but still a fascinating man ! some time ago I found this book .... thought you may be interested !!

Australians Sherriff and John Probert grew up knowing very little about their father, Jack Probert, other than that he had died a prisoner of war in the infamous Sandakan prison camp in northern Borneo near the end of World War II. After their mother died in 1973, the brothers stored her papers in a shed in John's backyard for almost a quarter of a century. When they finally got the opportunity to go through her papers, they uncovered in the letters and postcards the first tantalizing glimpses into their father's life. These discoveries would lead them on an odyssey across time and space to learn the story of their father's life, his imprisonment as a POW in both WWI and WWII, his parents' turbulent marriage, and his own inter-war life as a farmer. This moving account of their quest to discover the life and character of a man that they barely remembered, but who had such a heroic and tragic existence is sure to keep readers glued to the pages.

Prisoner of Two Wars: An Australian ... - Google Book Search

Just to warn you the book is very emotionally hard to read in parts ... I had to keep putting it down .... but this story has to be read ... it's important to know the real stories !

liverpool annie · 15-09-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by liverpool annie

I've had an interest in this man for some time ... I was trying to include him with my family !! one of my family names is Muels ( and various spellings ) I have ties to the Rifle Brigade ... and more than one or two of my family have jumped ship and started life over ... so I was pleased to see your thread Spidge ! ... he's not my family I'm afraid but still a fascinating man ! some time ago I found this book .... thought you may be interested !!

Australians Sherriff and John Probert grew up knowing very little about their father, Jack Probert, other than that he had died a prisoner of war in the infamous Sandakan prison camp in northern Borneo near the end of World War II. After their mother died in 1973, the brothers stored her papers in a shed in John's backyard for almost a quarter of a century. When they finally got the opportunity to go through her papers, they uncovered in the letters and postcards the first tantalizing glimpses into their father's life. These discoveries would lead them on an odyssey across time and space to learn the story of their father's life, his imprisonment as a POW in both WWI and WWII, his parents' turbulent marriage, and his own inter-war life as a farmer. This moving account of their quest to discover the life and character of a man that they barely remembered, but who had such a heroic and tragic existence is sure to keep readers glued to the pages.

Prisoner of Two Wars: An Australian ... - Google Book Search

Just to warn you the book is very emotionally hard to read in parts ... I had to keep putting it down .... but this story has to be read ... it's important to know the real stories !

He's on the list of POW's from The Rifle Brigade POW Help Fund for the 1st RB's giving his address as Erin Hall Torquay !