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19-10-2007, 12:36 AM
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| Άρης  Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Terra something or other
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You're Top Poster: #1   | Westland Lysander One of those aircrafts that deserves far more recognition than it gets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Lysander http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/Lysander.htm http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/19...l_lysander.htm Some lovely structural close ups: http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/c...Lysander%20III And as usual youtube comes up trumps with a clipped narration: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CRYCx_G25ro
__________________ _________________  Beaufighter TF Mark Xs (NV427 'EO-L' nearest) of No. 404 Squadron RCAF based at Dallachy, Morayshire, breaking formation during a flight along the Scottish coast. February 1945. |
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19-10-2007, 12:58 AM
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You're Top Poster: #1 | Good article from Flight Magazine from 1939 on Army Co-operation: http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchi...0-%201512.html http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchi...0-%201513.html A few nice shots of the Lys.
__________________ _________________ Beaufighter TF Mark Xs (NV427 'EO-L' nearest) of No. 404 Squadron RCAF based at Dallachy, Morayshire, breaking formation during a flight along the Scottish coast. February 1945. |
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19-10-2007, 12:59 AM
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You're Top Poster: #2  | Today's airworthy Lizzies have some of the rarest airworthy engines in the world in the Bristol Mercury. http://www.irishairpics.com/database/photo/1024109/ Excellent report on flying the Lizzie from Chief Pilot at Old Warden, Andy Sephton: http://www.pilotweb.aero/content/art...e.aspx?id=3038 Can't find any reference to the French machine. Hang on, that might be because it's Belgian and owned by the Sabena Old Timers! #@$%&! Great resto story: http://users.skynet.be/fa452862/hist_uk.htm http://users.skynet.be/fa452862/prevol_uk.htm The Canadian airworthy Lizzie: http://www.warplane.com/pages/aircraft_lysander.html Kermit Weeks has one as well in Florida but don't think she's flown in a while.
__________________ http://www.454-459squadrons.org.au/. http://www.awm.gov.au/index.asp  Aircraft from No. 60 Squadron levelling out for the "run in" to make a mast-head attack on a Japanese coaster off Akyab. Courtesy AWM. |
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24-01-2008, 11:48 PM
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You're Top Poster: #10 | Have any of you got a decent picture or diagram showing how the gunner's machine gun (single or double), was mounted and retracted, and what field of fire it had? As far as I can tell, the rear gun mounting was a retrograde step compared with the Lysander's predecessors - no Scarff ring allowing for easy training in any direction. Could the gunner fire directly back over the rear fuselage? (I doubt it) The shot of the Canadian rebuild and the RAF Museum example give very little clue (I've been right up to the RAFM one and as far as I can see the rear gun mountain is not fitted). Contemporary photos are not much use either - probably censored. |
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25-01-2008, 11:23 PM
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You're Top Poster: #10 | Thanks, GD, but no sign of the rear gun mounting. I wonder if these were all removed when the type ceased to be used for Army Co-op and the answer has died with the men who built and flew it. I wonder if Westland still have any plans? Its also noticeable how little room the gunner had - I had assumed he had the whole of the space under the rear canopy, but he clearly didn't. There was decking all round him at waist level. I wonder if more space was created for agent pick-ups - I believe it was sometimes possible to carry two agents? |
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25-01-2008, 11:31 PM
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You're Top Poster: #10 | Another Lysander question: It seems that these aircraft were withdrawn from the Artillery Spotting roles after the fall of France due the heavy casualities involved. In Normandy, the Auster was used in that role (flown by Artillery officers not the RAF) and the Americans used the Piper L4Cub, Stinson L19 Grasshopper etc. These types were even slower than the Lizzie and would have been even more vulnerable, but we had Air Superiority by then. So how was artillery spotting carried out between 1940 and 1944, in North Africa for instance? Did they use aircraft, and if so what type? I believe that Tomahawks were used by Army Co-op units - was artillery spotting one of their roles? |
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26-01-2008, 05:20 AM
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You're Top Poster: #2 | I think some of the Army Co-op units also used Hurris. Can't remember any mention of artillery spotting though.
__________________ http://www.454-459squadrons.org.au/. http://www.awm.gov.au/index.asp Aircraft from No. 60 Squadron levelling out for the "run in" to make a mast-head attack on a Japanese coaster off Akyab. Courtesy AWM. |
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